We’ve all heard it. “I can’t meditate.” “I can’t quiet my mind.” “I don’t have time to sit for 20 minutes.” “What’s the point anyway?”

In this discussion between two of my favorite humans, Rich Roll and Guru Singh discuss meditation–the practice and why it’s invaluable.

One of the most important themes they emphasize is that the monkey mind and chatter we all hear when beginning this practice are revealing something essential. This noise, which grows louder when we’re quiet, is the noise we have come to live with everyday and don’t even know it! Only silence and detachment from daily business reveal this truth. And once we know this, we can see that it’s the noise that prevents us from surrendering to our true selves and actually evolving.

I hope you find a few minutes to watch.